After one month of wait, finally I got my CWNE result today & become CWNE#153.
In this post I would like to summarize my CWNE journey as it may give some inspirations for future CWNEs. Even though I have completed my CCIE Wireless lab on Aug 2013, I felt some skills gap in my wireless knowledge. I knew how to configure Cisco products in-depth, but did not have sound knowledge about how WiFi works. Without doubt anyone will agree with me, the CWNP program is the best option to learn WiFi. So in December 2013 I decided CWNE is my study goal for 2014.
As of 2014, here are the requirements to become a CWNE.
Here are the details of clarifications on what qualified as “Achievements” in the section 4 in the above.
Here are the 4 exams you have to complete which is one of the requirement for the CWNE. There are official study guides available for all of these exams & you can find some instructor-led classes as well. This post gives some other useful reference for CWNP studies outside above formal materials.
1. CWNA – Certified Wireless Network Administrator
2. CWSP – Certified Wireless Security Professional
3. CWAP – Certified Wireless Analysis Professional
4. CWDP – Certified Wireless Design Professional
Keeping the momentum is one challenge with these exams. In CCIE, you have to do lots of hands on tasks where it helps to keep it going. For CWNA & CWNP exams, mostly you have to read the study guides & try to understand the concepts. I managed to do my CWNA exam by end of February.
For the professional level exams ( CWSP, CWAP, CWDP) first challenge is to decide, in which order you have to approach it. (in fact you can do it whatever order you like). What is the logical order of doing it ? Many agree CWAP -> CWSP -> CWDP makes sense. This gives you opportunity to learn by analyzing packets what’s going on WiFi to get a sound understanding of WiFi operations before moving onto WiFi Security & WiFi Design. (Since I have done all these 3 exams, I can tell you CWAP is the most difficult one, so be prepared 😯 ).
In my journey, I have selected CWSP first, thinking that would be the most difficult one (based on my own judgement & own skill in that area), then CWAP & finally CWDP. If you know WiFi operation & WiFi security well, then it should help you in WiFi Design. I was fortunate to find a good study partner to help each other in this Journey. (Tuhin : You are an admirable friend 🙂 )
Even though everything inline, we could not get the concentration required easily, so 5-6 months passed without any CWNP studies. So in August, I decided to schedule these 3 exams in 3 months (16 Sep – CWSP, 21 Oct – CWAP & 25 Nov – CWDP) & stick to a schedule for studies. We used a simple strategy, I have to select half of the chapters (i choose odd numbers & my friend took even number chapters 🙂 , for fairness) in CWSP study guide & study those first. Then you have to teach those to your study partner. My partner did the same (teaching is powerful way of learning, so try to use that method whenever possible). At least 2 times during weekdays (1-2hr) & 2 times during weekends (2-4 hrs) discussions were held (my friend from US & I used to start my day 4.30 AM to study 2 hrs in everyday). These discussions gave each other required motivation & momentum to keep going.
In CWSP, if you could configure & test it yourself, that would give lots of benefit to remember those tiny details. So I have done few blog posts on what I have done with CWSP topics.
I went for the exam on 16th September. Based on our study plan we covered all the topics & practice questions came with study guide & available on CWNP website as well. I was very confident & happy with the result (passed with 85%). By the way my friend also passed the exam in couple of weeks time (as he was so busy with his work, had to reschedule)
Then we moved on to CWAP & continued the same strategy. If you followed my blog during this time (October 2014), you would realize how intense it was. I did almost 1 blog per day for a topic related to this exam. This is all about analyzing wireless frames & visualize detail WiFi operation. Apart from the CWAP study guide, IEEE 802.11-2007 standard would become a handy reference for you. By end of the 1 month study, it becomes too many details to remember & I found blogging about it helped me to remember certain things.
I went for CWAP exam on 21st Oct. I realized in certain questions, I have to make some guesses, so end up with 68% & failed (70% was the pass mark). If you study properly, failing this sort exam won’t let you down, as it always give you another learning opportunity (same for CCIE & failing it make you stronger by giving you opportunity to learn it in detail). So I scheduled it again 5th Nov & read more on the area I was not that confident. So this time, I managed to pass it with 78%. Here are my study notes on CWAP. (Unfortunately my friend could not do the exam due to his workload)
Finally start moved to CWDP studies. In CWDP, there is nothing much you can do with hands on while you are studying. If you have wireless deployment experience, you will understand most of the topics without much trouble. I found RF concepts /hardware chapters (CH6 & 7) are little hard while all others are easy read. After reading all those chapters & did chapter review questions & other question banks comes with book CD, available in CWNP site, went to the exam on 25th Nov. I managed to pass this with 76%. Due to the nature of topics & limited time I had during studies did not get any time to do blogging like CWAP & CWSP for CWDP.
Once you complete these exam requirements, it is just matter of completing your CWNE applications while fulfilling other given requirements. You have to write about 3 WiFi projects you involved highlighting how you utilized your skills in that project to address some of the challenges in those projects. Regarding publications requirement, I have done enough WiFi related posts & I simply used them. I had CCIE R&S , CISSP certification to fulfill other certification requirement. Also you have to get endorsement from 3 individual who know about your wireless experience. I got one from my manager (always helped me on my studies & lucky to have someone like him as my manager ) & others form two of my colleagues (Thanks a lot @wirelessguru and @scottpstapleton )
Here is the current CWNE distribution around the Globe. I know I am the 4th CWNE here in Australia 🙂
End of the day, most important thing is the journey you go to achieve these. To get the respect comes with these certs, you have to deliver what is expect from a true expert. So don’t try to find shortcuts or keep a goal of getting these numbers in quickest possible time (no value in my perspective).
Go your journey at your own phase (depend on experience you have you can determine how much time you have to spend on these). Try to find an admirable friend/friends to help each others. Always share your knowledge (via blog, forums, community events) & that will give you a satisfaction you cannot buy it from any other means. Also try to inspire someone else to make this journey .(be someone who makes others to follow)
I have two wishes at this point of time
1. This post will inspire future CWNEs & CWNP program become more popular.
2. My friend Tuhin, will get his CWNE status in 2015 🙂
congrats Rasika…and now what? maybe some patent
Thanks.. 2015 I have to relax 🙂
Rasika
Hi Rasika,
Many congrats for this new achievement! Your stories always give me some inspiration!!!
Following you, I passed my CCIEW lab in September, and I really love the wifi technology.
I am looking for a new challenge in 2015, and I am hesitating between CCIE RS and CWNE.
I would really love going deeper in the wifi with the CWNE, but not sure if I can fulfill the publication and experience requirements.
I am just a little less interested in the RS for now, but I love the way you can easily learn about the technology with Cisco. You just follow the blueprint and the study guide, and you learn without even thinking about it.
Also I am not sure CWNE is really recognized in France, which really is my main point of hesitation…
What would be your advice?
Thanks again 🙂
Andre.
Hi Andre,
I would suggest you to start a blog & that will cover the publication requirement.
CWNE should give you self satisfaction irrespective of the demand in your country. You will feel you know about wireless once you do CWNE (with CCIE, you feel confident how to configure & troubleshoot Cisco products, not much about wireless in general)
CCIE-R&S is very good cert too. It is fundamental to any other technology within Cisco.
Depend on your interest, if you feel another Cisco exam keeps you motivate,then do that. Otherwise if you think go deep into wireless keep you motivate, do CWNA/CWNP exams.
Thanks
Rasika
Hi Rasika,
Currently, my interest goes in the wifi for sure! I think I will follow your lead and prepare the CWNP program.
I worked really hard for the CCNP-W and the CCIE-W Written on the technology. But I agree with you to say that preparing the CCIE lab is almost about to know how to configure Cisco products.
I’m not sure if I can get all of the CWNE requirements. Was that part complicated for you? You didn’t have any problem for the publication or the non-CWNP requirements I guess, but what about the Wifi Project Documentation essays? Did they asked for something ?
Also, were the CWNP publications enough to prepare for the exams? They look like great study material.
Andre.
Congratulations Rasika…I’m sure it was worth it all, knowing that your achievement will make such a positive difference in your career path. Well done!
Ehsan,
Thanks Ehsan..
congratulations Rasika ! your journey is an inspiration.
Thank you !
Hi Rasika,
Hartley congrats on your next achievement. You are always inspirational for my career goals. Please dont stop posts in this blog.
Subhash
Hi Subhash,
Thank you very much. Glad I was able to inspire you & try to keep up my blog to help others
HTH
Rasika
Great news!!!
Congrats Rasika,well done!
I will agree with Andre that your stories have inspired many people, including me..
Enjoy you achievement!
Christos
Hi Chris,
Thank you very much.
Hope you guys can inspire few others & help to wifi community.
Rasika
Congrats Rasika. You are the only one who inspired me to go for CCIEW Journey and will remember u as my Idol.
Regards
Sandeep
That’s great Sandeep, I am really happy for you, I am sure you will get your CCIE numbers very soon.
Try to inspire few others 🙂
Rasika
Congrats Rasika. Great done. You are the one who inspired me to go for CCIEW after getting my CWNE. What is the next step on your side? I am thinking about SANS 617 Wireless Ethical Hacking, Penetration Testing & Defenses.
Regards
Jaromir Likavec
Nice one Jaromir,
I am thinking of get some relaxation in year 2015 🙂
Great to see you keep studying wifi, share us what you think once you done those.
Rasika
Congrats on your CWNE. I took my CCIE lab and failed on October 31 but I am going back in March for my 2nd attempt and maybe will get a better results. Congrats you are an inspiration to all.
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Hi Dee,
Thanks
I am sure you will make it next time, Keep going
Rasika
Congratulations for this great achievement !!!!
Happy new year.
Thanks , Wish you a Happy new year too
Rasika
Congrats Rasika!!
Fernando.
Thanks my friend…
Hi Rasika,
you did a great job and showed a lot of passion for the exams. I hope you enjoy your status and you are able to reach your goals that you associate with your CWNE cert.
Keep it up and kind regards from Germany
Thank you.. yes I am enjoying all my handwork done toward this in 2014.
2015 is year of “Relaxation” 🙂
Rasika
Merry New Year! Congrats mate from over the pond 🙂
Thanks mate… hope you are nearly there in your CWNE goal.
Rasika
Hi Rasika
Just wondering how easily you are finding it to fulfill the CE requirements to maintain the CWNE certification?
Also if you had your time again would have you completed the CWNE prior to the CCIE-W?
Thanks
Haydn
Hi Haydn,
If you are going for wirelesss conferences then it is easy task.
For me I have done ECSE training which recognize number of hours as CEs.
Since you require 60 CEs for 3 year period, I will try CWSP/AP/DP exam (20 CEs) in case I did not have enough at 3 yr time.
Regarding CCIEW or CWNE, yes I would do CWNE first.
HTH
Rasika
I have passed CCDP today with your help! 🙂
Any chance for a CWDP post? I know its been awhile since you went over the topic, but it would be interesting for your take. You did a great job with the CWSP and CWAP articles as well.
I’m going CWDP->CWSP->CWAP route. I have strong experience with the first 2 and expect to pass within 3 months. CWAP will take a little longer (with CWNE application submittal) as a precursor to CCIEW written.
Your site has been a great resource!
Hi Chris,
I do not think there will be a CWDP post series.
If you have strong experience in WiFi, then official cert guide should be good enough for CWDP. I did use that book as reference and my own experience.
Wish you good luck for your studies and glad you found my blog got some useful resources
HTH
Rasika
Hi Rasika,
How long it took to get the CWNE certification after you apply the CWNE application?
Thanks,
Rex
I took more than 1 month for me
I am studying to the examn CWAP. I have the question
You are working to an organitation that has implemented an SCA-based WLAN. You want to chaone
the RF channel for a single AP.
What can you do to perform this task with some SCA solutions
A. Access the AP using SSH aod change the channel
B. Access the AP through the console port and change the channel
C. Access the AP usng Telnet and change the channel
D. Covvert the network to MCA
Thanks for you help
This is what I think, Because existing one is SCA-Single Channel Architecture, you have to change to MCA, in order to change one AP RF channel.
HTH
Rasika
Thanks…
Sorry I have question
What is the Extended IFS used to 802.11 contention ?
A. When the higher data rates are used and you want the fastest medium access times
B. When the lower data rates are used aod you want the fastest medium access times
C. When 802.11ac must coexist with 802.11o
D. When a frame receptin begins but the received frame is incomplete or corrupted based to the FCS
I thinks the anwers is D. Wha do you think this correct…??
ATT
Alvaro
Good write up there w.r.t the certifications. Thanks for the info.
I recently got my CWNA and have started the journey for CWSP. Good to notice, you too concur taking up CWSP post CWNA 😉
Hi Naveen
Congratulation on becoming a CWNA….
Yes, CWSP is good starting point for your Professional cert path…
Keep in touch
Rasika
Hi Rasika ,
You and your team mate done a very good thing , it is really a good strategy and knowledge sharing .
I hope , I will also get a team mate like you to prepare and share .
Anyone one or more people are interested would like to connect .
Please share your interest here
Yes, that is the best thing you can do.. I hope you will find some good friends who value such activities and motivate each other in sharing your knowledge.
Rasika